You can split hairs all you want. This was posted by the same �racist�: (there, I put it in quotes so all you hair-splitters would be happy): �Add Pakistan and India to the restricted list for new users before they can collect earnings.�

Quote from: marthamarks on November 06, 2020, 04:55

Quote from: Chichikov on November 06, 2020, 01:39

During my long career as a human being I have realized that, most of the time, those who look for the worst in everyone and everything are generally those who behave exactly like those they criticize�

PRIME EXAMPLE = Donald J. Trump

Why do you bring most discussions to politics?
It's really a habit with you�

Clearly you had someone in mind when you made YOUR comment. Why do you always jump on the denigrating others bandwagon? It�s really a habit with you and a couple of others here. Since you quoted Uncle Pete and me when you said it, there�s a 50% chance you were talking about me.   

Here in the US we�ve had four years of a loud-mouthed, disgusting bully who calls himself president. This election, right now, is foremost on our minds. Right now Biden is winning the electoral college, and spoiled little baby bully that he is, Trump�s holding up the counts because he�s a sore loser. I suspect that�s why Martha is bringing the conversation around to politics.

And also, the pay was calculated to be more than the amount the image would have received during a normal year. In theory, no contributor lostWhile Adobe paid for them and will get no income directly for those free downloads.

They will get income if people download the free images, use them to create new images, then sell them on Adobe. 😂

Great achievement all the same. If I submitted those they would be rejected for being out of focus. Before I suspended my SS account I came to the conclusion that SS had gone to war with their contributors and yet this slips through.

That was my point. When I was submitting, even when I would submit food shots with shallow DOFs they would get rejected for out of focus.

SS has to either be a) paying these people to create huge bogus portfolios to beef up their site totals and BS their shareholders, or b) just giving special treatment to some people, not really caring what they submit. Either way, it�s garbage.

I wonder how many people will take these free images the reupload them to this and other sites as their own to try to sell them.
This is going on at "another major agency" quite a bit at the moment.

What controls/checks are there the images and licences arent being misued?

Since none of the agencies seem to have any controls/checks, and none seem to do anything about it even when the stolen images are pointed out, maybe we all should just take a �if you can�t beat em, join em� attitude and start beefing up our ports with stolen images. The agencies don�t seem to care....a sale is a sale is a sale...no matter where it comes from.

Accounts don�t usually get blocked for no good reason. It usually ends up being user error. Glad you got it worked out.

So I now see Adobe�s press releases everywhere, with people crowing about how Adobe is �democratizing� art by giving away images and footage for free, effectively helping to put tens of thousands of us out of business.

I don�t see any press releases about Adobe �democratizing� anything by giving away their software for free, though. Wouldn�t that be helpful, if Adobe fought their competitors who make their software available for free by also offering Adobe software for free? I know creatives were really angry that Adobe switched to a yearly subscription, which costs people a lot more.

Weird that Adobe thinks people should pay more for their software and nothing for other people�s work.

I quit buying when they switched to subscription.

"The work of underepresented groups is so valuable we are going to give it away".

They are using pretzel logic. 😀

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 16, 2020, 03:19

This looks like a screenshot taken pre-2010. It seems that we have come full circle.
I agree with the people who think this is just a part of a bigger plan which main focus is Adobe CC. We're an afterthought at this point, a means to an end.

Exactly my thought, you beat me to it. Microstock started out as amateurs and semi-amateurs providing images to fill the gap, as has been mentioned. People and small companies who couldn�t afford hundreds of dollars for one image used them. The images were not big budgeted, but the royalties weren�t big either. And the images Jo Ann posts look very much like the images that most of us submitted back in 2004, when we were starting out. Yes, full circle.

Quote from: KuriousKat on October 15, 2020, 07:53

I just feel sad that within six months we have all gone from 'which site do you like the most' to 'which site do you dislike the least'.

In an ideal world, we would all pull our ports and go exclusive with Dreamstime, as they seem to be the only site that hasn't actively scr***d us over in some way or another.

yea, but we went from "iStock is best" (some years ago now!) to "SS is best!" to "Adobe is best!" and we don't know what DT, who were hasbeens for a long time and still show low earnings ratings on the poll (take with a pinch of salt) has in future plans.

What Adobe haven't said is what concrete info they have onhow many free users actually convert to paying users. My gut tells me 'not many'.

DT has done their fair share of screwing contributors over the years, too. They all work the same way.

Restrict new users from Ukraine.

Racist. 🙄

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Quote from: marthamarks on October 07, 2020, 21:59

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on October 06, 2020, 13:57

With hindsight it's easy to say she should have retired but there very well could have been another Democrat in after Obama.

Actually, history doesn't support that argument. Neither one of America's main political parties tends to hold the presidency for more than two terms in a row.

There are exceptions, of course (Reagan's 2 terms + GHW Bush's 1 term), but generally you'll find a long-established pattern of two terms/eight years of one party followed by two terms/eight years of the other.

I have a strong hunch that Justice Ginsburg knew that.

Yet HRC won by almost 3 million votes. The country wanted another Democratic POTUS. Hanging chads, the supreme court and the electoral college have handed the presidency to losers. The Democratic party needs to grow a freaking backbone and fight like h*ll against the gross unfairness that leads to these outcomes. At this point only 29% of registered voters are Republican. Don�t blame Ginsburg for the nefarious machinations of the Republican party. Point the blame for this farce of a presidency and a stacked supreme court where it belongs.

Dead right you are!..problem is the Democratic party and its the same with Labour in England. They are lost for leaders! Just look at them now with a "demented" Biden who is just a compromise to a real leader and its the same with this weird guy  Keir Starmer in England. Losers.

Why are you calling him �demented�? You sound like Trump, calling everyone names. �Sleepy Joe� 😡 He has overcome a lifelong stutter, so he speaks carefully. That doesn�t make him demented. He�s a helluva lot more presidential than Trump.